Monday, April 5, 2010

Gay Marriage Being Counted in the Census Bureau

The census bereau has already for the first time deployed professional field workers to reach out to lesbian and gay couples. They are encouraging lesbians and gay couples to file as wife or husband on their census forms, but should gay couples be counted as being married? Some argue they have the right to just like everyone else and some say it will redefine marriage.
In our pledge allegiance we have the statement "one nation under God" God created marriage to be man with women. Legalizing gay marriage and allowing them to be counted as being married breaks that oath and goes against what God created to be. We say our nation is a christian nation being under God but how can we say that if we count gay couples as being married. People have the freedom to love whoever they may weather it be the same sex or not but it still doesn't make it right for them to be married to the same sex.

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  1. In blog “Gay Marriage Being Counted in the Census Bureau,” fellow blogger Danielle is adamant of her opposition of same-sex marriages, not just that the Census Bureau is recognizing same-sex couples on the 2010 Census.

    Same-sex couples being able to be counted as a “married” couple, conservatives, including Danielle, state this is just another step towards “redefining marriage.” What I have a hard time grasping is why is “redefining marriage” wrong? Danielle quotes this portion of our pledge of allegiance “one nation under God” and continues on with “God created marriage to be man with women.” But what about the bible commending slavery? Our Constitution in 1865 was amended “neither slavery nor involuntary servitude….shall exist within the United States….” So because it is commended in the bible, that is okay? Obviously not, because I couldn’t imagine anyone today being “for” slavery regardless what the bible teaches us.

    Over many decades, people of our country have overcome so much, it saddens me that even with such groundbreaking events, such as the end of slavery and segregation, all U.S. citizens granted the option to vote regardless of “race, color, sex or previous condition,” and electing a non-Caucasian president (and very close to electing a female one too), that there is still such opposition when it comes to same-sex couples (and even abortion).

    I agree only with Danielle’s statement “people do have the freedom to love whoever,” but in my opinion they should also have the freedom to be counted just like everyone else, because they are a part of this country just like everyone else. Same-sex couples pay taxes, serve in our military and vote, so they too deserve equality, just like the slaves did, just like women and African-Americans did when we they were granted the right to vote and just like African-Americans did when they were allowed to sit at the front of a bus and attend “all white” schools, and just like when it became a woman’s right to choose.

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  2. In the blog "Gay Marriage Being Counted in the Census Bureau," my fellow classmate, Danielle, writes about the Census recognizing same-sex couples as marriages. Her post opposes this idea of gay marriages.
    I honestly couldn't agree more with Danielle. Same-sex marriages are not natural in our society. "God created marriage to be man with women. Legalizing gay marriage and allowing them to be counted as being married breaks that oath and goes against what God created to be." Most people get married to start a family; to have children. Two gay people cannot naturally make their own child.
    The Census Bureau field workers are encouraging lesbians and gay couples to file as wife or husband on their census forms. Same-sex couples cannot legally be married, so how can they file as wife or husband?
    I feel bad for gays and lesbians. I don't mean that in a derogatory way. I know it must be really hard for them to deal with many people looking down apon them for their way of life. I have some gay friends and I think they are some of the most amazing people I have ever met. But because of my religious views and morals, I still do not find it right for them to legally marry their partners.

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  3. In blog “Gay Marriage Being Counted in the Census Bureau,” written by Danielle Zamora I found it very interesting that she states in her article that the census bureau was for the first time deploying professional field workers to reach out to lesbian and gay couples and encouraging them to file as wife or husband on their census forms. The question in her article was should gay couples be counted as being married. She also goes on to quote our pledge allegiance “one nation under God” and that God created marriage to be between a man and a woman. That legalizing gay marriages goes against what God created marriage to be. That there are some people who argue that gay couples have the right to marriage just like everyone else and others who say that it will redefine marriage. So should gay couples be counted as being married?
    My answer to the question “Should gay couples be counted as married,” is “No.” I agree with Danielle’s argument in her article that “God created marriage to be between a man and a woman.” This is written in bible scriptures and it is something that I strongly believe in. Marriage is between a man and a woman that is why GOD created Adam and Eve. I believe that anything else just brings more evil into this world. Our Pope Benedict, stance on homosexuality is that it is a moral evil. He states that the inclination toward homosexuality is not necessarily a sin, it can be considered a "tendency toward an intrinsic moral evil, and thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder." He continues by stating that, "A person engaging in homosexual behavior therefore acts immorally," because sex is only good if framed in the stance of being for procreation between a married man and woman.
    See http://christianteens.about.com/od/homosexuality/f/RomCathHomosexu.htm

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  4. When viewing the world of politics and law, it is imperative for an individual to leave their own personal convictions and values at the door. The individual must base their choices solely on an interpretation based on how the laws are written, the constitution that this nation is founded upon and remember to always place the greater good of the nation and others above what your own values and beliefs may be telling you to do.

    I recently read the blog commentary written by Danielle Zamora titled “Gay Marriage Being Counted in the Census Bureau” and I feel that she has failed to keep this in mind. The final outcome of her article is against the legalization of same sex marriage. I agree with that final outcome but I believe that the logic that led her to that conclusion is flawed and my view on why the definition should be untouched at this time comes from a different prospective.

    The majority of the article uses religion as a basis of decision for argument against same sex marriage. Her commentary even states that we are a Christian nation. The United States was founded as being ambiguous towards religion. We do not have a state religion and have purposely separated state from religion and cannot let religion define our interpretation and creation of law.

    The author is correct in that the definition of marriage as being between a “man and woman” was defined as coming from religious interpretation. If we open up marriage to interpretation and change where is the end point or stoppage to change. If we open up and allow same sex marriages then we should open up to the idea of polygamy. If marriage is no longer between man and woman who is to say that a man cannot claim that he is now married to his goat or an inanimate object? Doesn’t that individual have as much as a right as the same sex couple that want to change the definition of marriage to what they deem fit as being proper or what a valid marriage is in todays world?

    If claiming that holding onto the definition of marriage as being between man and woman is discrimination and imposes upon the freedom and rights of others then I ask who is to set the boundary or deny the rights of all other groups other then just same sex couples?

    If you are to base your decision solely on religion then you have now crossed the line of separating religion from state and are allowing religion to dictate policies. You are basing an interpretation on a personal belief. You also crossed the line of denying the rights of and infringing upon the rights of other citizens of this nation.

    I believe strongly that there is no problem unless there is a solution. The solution to this issue? I believe that the governments involvement in using marriage as a defining characteristic of an individual should be removed. Being defined or given different treatment based on your marriage status creates a society of division and inequality. Citizens are taxed differently, given different rights and treated differently based on this one characteristic.

    Since marriage is a definition and institution created by religion it should stay within the confines of religion itself and out of national state matters and policies. If same sex couples or other citizens of this nation want recognition of their unions as official marriages then it is up to the religion they follow who defined marriage to discuss the topic of same sex marriages and whether or not they are authorized or deemed “moral” in their eyes. Yes it would require reworking of current laws but the establishment of an unbiased nation of equality would be worth the time and effort.

    Through this choice everyone is equal and the same in the eyes of the law. There is no discrimination, nobody is forced to abide by a law they do not believe in or was written based on a personal biased view of the world. It is up to the individuals religion to decide the moral and ethnical implications of their lifestyle choices and whether or not to recognize those individuals choices.

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